I think both the Han Solo saber and Vader's saber in the cave look suspect in your caps and are probably fiddled with, but I don't think the sabers were recomped in the carbon freeze chamber. Like I said earlier I think it's just a matter of the clipped white level and DVNR that makes the GOUT blades to appear thicker. You can also see DVNR-artifacts in every saber clash. Here's a couple of screenshots from the SWE LD.

But at the same time, all the optical grain and built in dirt was eliminated in all the lightsaber scenes for the 2004 DVD's, so they are all changed, recomped or not.

EDIT: also, great finds none. Hope I don't come across as some know-it-all-guy, just expressing my opinion.

OK guys, you've probably already seen this but I thought I'd repost here, since I think that, although it would be quite inexplicable, it may actually be an intentional change, because it's only the soldiers that are totally blurred and not the AT-ATs:

Adywan just posted this:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93945

It's a comparison between the Blu-Ray and a 35mm scan of the original version. The Blu-Ray fails miserably.

Maybe they were trying to conceal the AT-ATs' feet being hazy by making it appear that there was actually a misty haze on the ground level? Because it does look less like the AT-ATs are floating in the air.

"In 1997, the shot of Luke jumping down following Vader has been extended by two frames.  The next shot of Luke entering the pipe has been shortened by two frames.(1997 Change)"

This is just where a reel change occur, those two frames didn't make it when they produced the GOUT, they are included on the PAL version of the disc however.

EDIT:

"In 2004, blast fire from Ion Cannon is white.(2004 Change)"

"In 2004, blue square above switches is now black.(2004 Change)"

I can definitely see color in the blast fire and blue in the button, this is just how things got their look and appearance when the worst colortiming of all time got applied and approved by George Lucas. It affects everything in the transfers, I seriously doubt they sat down and decided that this blue square should be retimed so it appear dark blue, it's just how everything down to every minor detail gets affected by the new colortiming/fuck up. But if these kinds of things help people on this board when they work on their edits, I can see why you list it.

g-force said:

none said:

But there seems to be a specific caveat which made the lightsaber hit blasts fade more into the background. 

 

That's the DNR. It tends to remove things that only last 1 frame.

It looks to me like the same reason the star fields, glow of engines and lasers got eaten up by whatever Lowry or Lucasfilm used to artificially enhance/clean up the films with.

Harmy said:

OK guys, you've probably already seen this but I thought I'd repost here, since I think that, although it would be quite inexplicable, it may actually be an intentional change, because it's only the soldiers that are totally blurred and not the AT-ATs:

 

Adywan just posted this:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93945

It's a comparison between the Blu-Ray and a 35mm scan of the original version. The Blu-Ray fails miserably.

Maybe they were trying to conceal the AT-ATs' feet being hazy by making it appear that there was actually a misty haze on the ground level? Because it does look less like the AT-ATs are floating in the air.

 

That's an ugly one, it's like that on the 2004 DVD as well, the same blurry mess and loss of detail is also seen on other sequences in the battle, here's a few examples before that one. I don't have a 35mm scan to show the difference but even the motion-smeared '97SE TB demonstrate the difference.

top: '97SE TB / bottom: '04 DVD

The detail doesn't matter, as long as we get rid of all the grain. ;)

Simple, the 97SE was originally supposed to be SW only and when it was decided that they'd do ESB and ROTJ as well, they were just a little side project and a lot less work went into them. Also it's quite likely that the printing machines got better between 77 and 83, so the original wipes were higher quality in Jedi than in SW, so they didn't feel they needed to be redone.

I haven't looked at none's additions in a while, afraid of the re-organization I thought I had to do. I'M SO GLAD YOU CAN ORGANIZE THE PICTURES. Saved me 100 years of work!

And Harmy's is the conclusion we came to previous RE the wipes in RotJ.

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doubleofive wrote: I'M SO GLAD YOU CAN ORGANIZE THE PICTURES. Saved me 100 years of work!

Can anyone confirm? Sounds like something that should show up on the DIFF.

Treadwell said:

I'm afraid I can't make a screengrab right now, but I've never seen this mentioned:

In ESB when the probe droid blows up, there's a quick shot, perhaps 4 frames, just before the explosion, that has a vertical scratch through the frame. It starts and stops with the edits on either side of the shot. Why a dupe of a scratched positive ended up in this, I have no idea, as ASAIK there aren't even any opticals in the shot.

Anyway, for Blu-Ray the scratch was finally fixed. IIRC it was still there in 2004.

i've gone through the scene frame by frame and i can only find one vertical scratch. It appears only in the GOUT. It isn't there in the 1997 SE or the 2004 DVD

Could be a scratch on the print they used in 93.

And again, the fact that some dirt artefact appears in the GOUT doesn't necessarily mean it was always in the film, so I wouldn't really count clean-up. A proper remaster would probably get rid of these things even if it wasn't SE.

My friends, we made the big time. It was a few months ago, but still!

http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag/the-people-vs-george-lucas-and-star-wars-discussion/

These are the guys that did the incredible Prequel reviews. They have a (slightly) more normal show where they talk movies, but a few months ago they had the director of People Vs George Lucas. I just got around to watching it and thinking "man, I wish they had seen the Visual Comparisons" when this pops up:

I immediately paused because I know that frame...


We were included in a half-legitimate complaint-fest on the SE changes!

OMG these are awesome! It must've taken a long time to put these images together. I really enjoyed browsing it thanks. I had no idea the differences between the HD and the original were this intense.