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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

I'm glad that you seem to like my preservation. May I ask how you watch my DVD, is it on your computer screen via VLC or on a big LCD screen? I would suggest you try and burn a copy and play on a regular old CRT TV for best results, if you haven't. No offense, but to me those VLC settings of yours doesn't look good at all, you're free to play around with the settings you like of course but you have really taken a bulldozer approach IMO, it really just need a subtle contrast boost and a desaturation starting with side 2 to look like itself, which isn't that far removed from the original timing at all.

A few examples with a more accurately set white point.

DVD

Improved contrast

DVD

Improved contrast

 

Starting with side 2, there's more saturation.

DVD

Improved contrast and desaturation

And on Side 3 the saturation and contrast varies alot from scene to scene, I'm afraid there isn't any magic setting for the whole film. I can upload a contrast corrected version as soon as I get my new computer if there's still interest, it wouldn't take me long at all as I have all the files from this still saved on a external HD.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

I'd love that, for the record. :)

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

frank678 said:

So although I can see in the helpful examples you've posted have improved on the previous darkening contast and the previous too solid-quality to the saturation to me via my laptop screen they still appear too red(!!)

No color correction was done on my examples except some desaturation on the last pic, the first step is to set the correct black and white point before you even attempt to color correct anything because it will greatly affect how your colors will come out, my examples weren't anything definitive, I just wanted to demonstrate how much a subtle contrast correction can do. If you've only seen my disc on your laptop you haven't seen it at all.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

original

http://i46.tinypic.com/30dia03.jpg

correction

http://i49.tinypic.com/xdzgvr.jpg

 

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

^Crushed white highlights. I'm going a bit brutal here, but I think those might actually hurt my eyes to look at. That's just unreasonably bright, man. I get what you'er trying to do with removing some of the brown, but you have to try something else. That's just not doing it. Your whites are blinding and your blacks turning gray.

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http://i49.tinypic.com/2w1y3it.jpg

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http://i48.tinypic.com/vq3cb4.jpg

 

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

While I don't see a brown tint anymore, you should really be working on a calibrated monitor. You've definitely oversaturated the picture and possibly brightened it some too. Look at Luke's jacket for loss of detail.

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http://i.imgur.com/qaREv.png

http://i.imgur.com/1Oe0C.png

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http://i.imgur.com/ZqrOj.png

http://i.imgur.com/eEDeL.png

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http://i.imgur.com/RiQeW.png

http://i.imgur.com/zXIfj.png

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?
Of course, you can dig something from any source, but it is best to have an original LD lossless capture start.
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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

@frank678

Part of my day job is to restore graphics, which of course includes colour correction. I agree with others, you're mostly being far too extreme with the images: they're over exposed and too saturated. In the process you're actually losing visual information.

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RE: Calling all Color Correctors: Can this source yield a different set of results to Gout?

The 8mm restoration is the FIRST I really like from you

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pittrek said:


The 8mm restoration is the FIRST I really like from you

This. What changed? Why does that look so much better?

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