Warbler said:

perhaps I should have said "quality, nonbiased, trained mental experts, like psychologists and Psychiatrists?    

and again, what about slander? 

Again, what about freedom of speech?

CP3S said:

Warbler said:

perhaps I should have said "quality, nonbiased, trained mental experts, like psychologists and Psychiatrists?    

and again, what about slander? 

Again, what about freedom of speech?

suing for slander is, as far as I know, not a violation of the 1st amendment.

So, what about slander?

You know, I kind of like being able to critisize the government and not have to ever worry about being sued because people generally dislike what I'm saying and accuse me of slander.

So, again, how about true freedom of speech? Let's ditch looking for loopholes and digging for reasons to give up that freedom. I, for one, would really like to hang onto that freedom.

I do too, but I f___ing can't stand people like Alex Jones. 

Easy solution: Don't tune into him. You don't have to stand him, or even hear a word he says. Problem solved, no breaking down the integrity of out freedom of speech needed. Yay.

I still say he ought to be in a padded cell. 

Well, I'm just glad I don't live in the country you wish the US was.

*puts CP3S in straightjacket, locks him in padded cell, and throws away the key*

TV's Frink said:

From the Religion thread but more appropriate here...

CP3S said:

I was thinking a little bit more about this link Fink posted in the Boston Marathon Bombing thread: http://deadspin.com/the-tsarnaev-brothers-allegedly-followed-9-11-conspirac-476607277

In short, it is someone going on about how ridiculous Alex Jones is for his wild conspiracy theories, crazy speculation, and how quick he is to jump to conclusions. The author links to a blog post made by a woman who knew the bombers' mother and retells how their mother believed that 9/11 was done by the US to make Islam look bad and justify war. The author then goes on to do exactly what he condemns Alex Jones for and wildly speculates that maybe the reason these guys did it wasn't because they were Islamic fundamentalists, but because they were paying back America for the evil America has done to them with framing Muslims for 9/11.

Yeah. At least Alex Jones is talented enough to make his wild speculation seem plausible, in a convoluted crazy sort of way.

Follow up:

http://deadspin.com/report-boston-bombing-suspect-was-a-9-11-truther-478631719

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bomb-suspect-influenced-mysterious-radical

Yup. He was a 9/11 truther. So?

The associated press article you linked to also explained that he had a close friend who steered him toward a "strict stand of Islam". Of course, it probably is more likely that it was his trutherism that drove him to do it.

That was actually another thing I was going to comment on in my post in the Religion thread today, but left out. I think it is a major failure of liberals that they try so hard to defend Islam. Let it all drop. We don't need it, and there is no reason to defend it in the name of multiculturalism. Antiquated harmful old religions don't need our defense. Sure, be accepting of this cultural background, but we can do that without defending and condoning (there is nothing wrong with wearing a burka if it is your choice, but it is very wrong to force others to wear them, or to inflict pain and suffering upon them if they refuse to comply). Statements like, "it is a beautiful religion of peace" are complete bullshit. A beautiful religion doesn't treat their women like second class people and require them to cover their heads and faces in public. There is nothing beautiful about that.

FanFiltration said:

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Arrrg. Now I will never know what you said, and it will drive me crazy.

I guessed that Al-Qaeda,  terrorist organization that happens to be Muslim , might have done the Boston bombing: people jump all over me and accuse me of racism even though I guessed a terrorist organization and not Muslims or Islam itself.    

Then CP3S says this:

CP3S said:

That was actually another thing I was going to comment on in my post in the Religion thread today, but left out. I think it is a major failure of liberals that they try so hard to defend Islam. Let it all drop. We don't need it, and there is no reason to defend it in the name of multiculturalism. Antiquated harmful old religions don't need our defense. Sure, be accepting of this cultural background, but we can do that without defending and condoning (there is nothing wrong with wearing a burka if it is your choice, but it is very wrong to force others to wear them, or to inflict pain and suffering upon them if they refuse to comply). Statements like, "it is a beautiful religion of peace" are complete bullshit. A beautiful religion doesn't treat their women like second class people and require them to cover their heads and faces in public. There is nothing beautiful about that.

and nothing. 

Where are the people that jumped all over me?   

I won't be surprised if my post gets a lot of negative reaction. One reason I assume the one in the religion thread isn't getting a reaction, is because it is kind of long and people aren't reading it.

But, everything in my post is really hard to argue with. It is all true, and most people know it is true, but it just sounds so wrong and incorrect to say it.