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bkev's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

Well, first off, I thank you for the respect. Second, I wasn't calling you anti-patriotic. You're entitled to your views, even if I disagree with them. I was calling Warb a patriot in the sense that he thinks you're insulting the United States by bringing conspiracy theories into this tragedy - and for the record, I do agree. I'm just not as passionate about that as he is.

FanFiltration's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

bkev said:

Well, first off, I thank you for the respect. Second, I wasn't calling you anti-patriotic. You're entitled to your views, even if I disagree with them. I was calling Warb a patriot in the sense that he thinks you're insulting the United States by bringing conspiracy theories into this tragedy - and for the record, I do agree. I'm just not as passionate about that as he is.

Thank you for your reply, and I now understand how my post came across that way.  I just have such disgust and distrust for the main stream media, and that has made me quite cynical.  I meant no disrespect for the victims or city of Boston.  I'm am also sick of this death and destruction, and I am venting that frustration in my own way.  I would rather not have to comment on such events, but I refuse to be silent at the risk of offending someone, because it's impossible not to offend someone out there.

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zombie84's avatar
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TheBoost said:

darth_ender said:

 I don't really care, but if it's such a crime to blame Islamic extremists, why is it okay to blame right wing white American Protestants with equally little corroborating evidence?

I think the differences in sensitivity levels is largely due to all the attacks and hate crimes done against white people after Newton, Aurora, Columbine, and Oklahoma City. 

 

This is a good question, but also a bit misleading because most recent terrorist attacks have been committed by "right wing American Protestants" so it's natural to speculate if this is on the same lines. Warbler had a legit point about speculating/investigating parties that could be possible suspects based on past actions and known activities, and the reason I took some issue with that is because 9/11 was a long time ago and, really, an isolated incident, which hasn't quite clicked with a lot of people but it's true. Middle eastern terrorists haven't blown anything up in the United States since 12 years ago, so they aren't very realistic suspects any more when there is a whole population body of crazy white people who have been doing stuff like this many times over the past few years--them and pretty much them alone. If it was 2002, for example, it would be reasonable to wonder if Al Queda was responsible for a terrorist attack. Doesn't really hold much water any more, although I will admit the public/spectacle nature of this crime is a bit more in keeping with such an organization rather than the "lone gunman" local extremists that have been in the news a lot recently.

Having said that it would be wrong of course to start arresting card-carrying Republicans as suspects--which is pretty much what happened to that Saudi fellow, who's only crime was being middle eastern in public. The official reason is "acting suspicious" of course, but I can read between the lines on that one, and I'm not sure what that even entails since I don't think they have officially elaborated on it (you mean he looked nervous and worried like he just survived a public bombing?). When being Republican at a major crime gets you in a police car this point will have more merit.

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thejediknighthusezni's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
           TEA partiers ARE immediately demonized after these things. Tuscon and that homo-erotic OWS Bush staged 911 nut, Aurora and that Psyche student (almost always liberal), Virginia college and the immigrant they downplayed incredibly....

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zombie84's avatar
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Yes to some degree, based on their political stance. Not where they were born or what they look like. It's legitimate to criticism political stances, you can't possibly equate that with Islamophobia. I mean, even non-Muslims have to suffer that, a Sikh temple was destroyed after 9/11 because some jackasses didn't know what Sikhs were.

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thejediknighthusezni's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
           Your thought control overlords in the mainstream media know damn well that as long as it's a WHITE male or they can immediately convince their sheeple that it was a white male it doesn't matter how completely their views are associated with very liberal-lefty bullshit. Tens of millions of people who think of these acts think of the completely non-existent characature of the "White Christian TEA Party Conservative Republican Terrorist."

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zombie84's avatar
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I think you are assuming too much there, but again: has that ever impacted a Tea Partier's life in a meaningful way, beyond the fair game of political criticism? Has anyone been arrested at a crime scene on the basis of being a member? Of course not. It's insulting to the victims of racial profiling to even attempt to compare the two.

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thejediknighthusezni's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

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thejediknighthusezni's avatar
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     Many of the 911 perps were students from the gulf oil states in their early twenties who operated out of BOSTON. They happen to catch someone who fits that EXACT profile near but not so near the scene to be seriously injured. This is a case of racial profiling? He was caught by a by-stander. If we had to rely on the authorities who were all over the area, in uber-liberal Boston, it probably would have been Fort Hood all over again. They probably would have shrunk back from the arab student because it would destroy their careers to profile the lad in that unfortunate "Workplace Violence" incident. They probably would have jumped all over the white male who caught the arab. I don't care if he turns out to be innocent. He was right next to the scene of horrible carnage and he fit the profile TOO PERFECTLY. Stopping him to ensure that he could be QUESTIONED was the only sane thing to do. Watching all these media lefties who are ANGRY because the capture of the arab interfered with their usual operation of VICIOUS HATE MONGERING against white Christian TEA party males is disgusting and dispicable beyond words to describe.

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bkev's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

I implore you to consider these thoughts elsewhere, like the politics thread. Instead let's use this to properly remember the victims.

zombie84's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

As long as he keeps making posts, even The Onion can't parody stuff this close.

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First off FanFiltration didn't introduce a conspiracy theory he posted to a piece of video with an item of data not theory. The first theory on here was that it was Islamic terrorists, arguably a conspiracy theory, who did this.

Next up this isn't a shrine to the people killed or injured in this awful act.

It's an off topic, unmoderated thread on a discussion board about Star Wars where a piece of breaking news is the subject heading.

Calling people names is fun and using fowl language is hilarious but some might find it a bit distasteful considering that nobody caught up in this crime was an evil public figure.

But they aren't probably reading this thread anyway so knock yourselves out you freaking loons.

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AntcuFaalb's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

Let's get back on topic.

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How do ya'll feel about crowdsourcing this kind of thing?

Last edited on April 17, 2013 at 1:43 PM by AntcuFaalb

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thejediknighthusezni said:

               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

lol?

AntcuFaalb's avatar
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SilverWook said:

The more eyeballs on this the better, so long as information is forwarded to the proper authorities to act upon.

I worry that the media might hastily ruin someone's life... again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill#The_anthrax_attacks

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The list goes on and on and...

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TheBoost's avatar
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thejediknighthusezni said:

               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

White American Christian here.

My life is just as easy today as it was before this. And before Newton, and Aurora, and Columbine, and the Olympic bombings, or the Anthrax attacks. 

I'm still doing pretty good. But my Wife is Mexican, so maybe that protects me from the Oppression Rays that victimize all the rest of us in the majority.  

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zombie84 said:

TheBoost said:

darth_ender said:

 I don't really care, but if it's such a crime to blame Islamic extremists, why is it okay to blame right wing white American Protestants with equally little corroborating evidence?

I think the differences in sensitivity levels is largely due to all the attacks and hate crimes done against white people after Newton, Aurora, Columbine, and Oklahoma City. 

 

This is a good question, but also a bit misleading because most recent terrorist attacks have been committed by "right wing American Protestants" so it's natural to speculate if this is on the same lines. Warbler had a legit point about speculating/investigating parties that could be possible suspects based on past actions and known activities, and the reason I took some issue with that is because 9/11 was a long time ago and, really, an isolated incident, which hasn't quite clicked with a lot of people but it's true.

It doesn't feel like 911 was that long ago to me.    It was no isolated incident.   1993 bombing of the World Trade Center,  USS Cole, 1998 US Embassy bombing,  etc.  

zombie84 said:

Middle eastern terrorists haven't blown anything up in the United States since 12 years ago,

I believe there have been multiple attempted terrorist attacks that foiled.  They have tried and continue to threaten the United States.   There have also been bombings done other countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.   It is very clear that they hate us and want to kill us.  In addition, I am sure some want revenge for Bin Laden.   So when a terrorist attack happens  and Americans are the target, what is wrong with wondering if Al-Qaeda did it? 

zombie84 said:

If it was 2002, for example, it would be reasonable to wonder if Al Queda was responsible for a terrorist attack. Doesn't really hold much water any more

why isn't reasonable wonder it right now.   They are a terrorist organization, why shouldn't we wonder if they are responsible for a terrorist attack? Wonder is much different from assuming or concluding.

zombie84 said:

Having said that it would be wrong of course to start arresting card-carrying Republicans as suspects--which is pretty much what happened to that Saudi fellow, who's only crime was being middle eastern in public. The official reason is "acting suspicious" of course, but I can read between the lines on that one, and I'm not sure what that even entails since I don't think they have officially elaborated on it (you mean he looked nervous and worried like he just survived a public bombing?). When being Republican at a major crime gets you in a police car this point will have more merit.

I agree that we shouldn't go around arresting anyone without sufficient evidence.

 

imperialscum's avatar
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I not trying to be disrespectful or anything but I think these kind of events get way too much attention. Every day hundreds of people die of hunger (which is far more horrible way to die) and yet no one complains or cares about that.

Prequel Trilogy was supposed to be a story about a good man turning bad. In reality, it is a story about how a complete jerk (PT Anakin) turned into one of the best characters in film history (OT Vader)

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thejediknighthusezni said:

               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

you're nuts.

Warbler's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

imperialscum said:

I not trying to be disrespectful or anything but I think these kind of events get way too much attention.

couldn't disagree with you more.   3 people died and many more have lost limbs.    Since the we haven't yet arrested the person or people responsible, this could happen again.   I'd say that merits attention.

imperialscum said:

Every day hundreds of people die of hunger (which is far more horrible way to die) and yet no one complains or cares about that.

I do. that why I help out with my churches' food bank.   

TheBoost's avatar
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imperialscum said:

I not trying to be disrespectful or anything but I think these kind of events get way too much attention. Every day hundreds of people die of hunger (which is far more horrible way to die) and yet no one complains or cares about that.

They don't? You might want to check some stats about world-wide hunger relief before you make those claims.

 

AntcuFaalb's avatar
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imperialscum: I agree.

Let's face it, guys. The media helps terrorists win.

Look at how fearful the USA has become post-9/11. With the Patriot Act, TSA bullshit, ..., the list goes on and on. I have no doubt that all of the attention by the media played a significant part in easing the rise of the 2002-present USA Security Theater.

If the goal of terrorism is to transform the target into a terrorized fearful society, then Al-Qaeda won back in 2001.

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imperialscum's avatar
RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)

AnctuFaalb, I agree. Their main goal is to get attention. And people are giving it to them.

Warbler said:

I do. that why I help out with my churches' food bank.   

TheBoost said:

You might want to check some stats about world-wide hunger relief before you make those claims.

I hate to be realistic but just sending the food doesn't actually solve the problem. The country and its people need to get responsible and limit their population within their production capabilities. I mean "send us food and we will multiply" attitude is bound to hit the brutal reality of nature.

Last edited on April 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM by imperialscum

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