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raphael's avatar
Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Has anybody preserved this very 1st outing of James Bond, starring Barry Nelson as Bond and Peter Lorre as Le Chiffre for the 1954 TV show Climax!?

It was released on VHS, but it'd be great to have this on DVD.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Casino-Royale-The-Collectors-Edition/dp/6304867514

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_%28Climax!%29

Last edited on August 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM by raphael
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RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

I think the shorter version did get released as a special feature on one of the spoof casino royale's dvd's.   The full uncut version has never been on DVD.  A number of years ago there was a bootleg floating around the internet but now impossible to find probably.  Since it was simply a cap of the vhs and not a very high quality one at that.  I think it was released as an Xvid.

Whomever now owns the copyright to MGM after bankruptcy has no reason to track down a tv print and waste time and money to transfer it considering it was never an ION production.  Much like the spoof, and Never say never again.

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captainsolo's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Wasn't it just the ending that was missing from the MGM DVD version?

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Peefy's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

skyjedi2005 said:

The full uncut version has never been on DVD.  A number of years ago there was a bootleg floating around the internet but now impossible to find probably.  Since it was simply a cap of the vhs and not a very high quality one at that.  I think it was released as an Xvid.

I have this Xvid, if it can be of any help. It's 51:54. Here's some screenshots from VLC:

Last edited on September 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM by Peefy
STENDEC's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

I actually have this version of Casino Royale in its entirety as I managed to purchase a copy of the Collector's Edition VHS. The only part missing is the last few seconds of the credits, which to my knowledge was never recovered.

I even copied it to my PC as well. I just haven't done anything with it since then (it's just sitting as an AVI file on my hard drive). I was going to make a DVD version of it but I kind of lost interest. If you guys are after it though, I can pick the job up again :P

Last edited on September 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM by STENDEC
STENDEC's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Here are some screen caps from my VHS rip for those interested:

http://imgur.com/1v0bN

raphael's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Cool, I'm certainly interested. It'd be even nicer to have a non-compressed/avi rip...

ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

I'd be interested too...

Williarob's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

I'm interested. I have the original xvid somewhere too, but STENDEC's capture looks much better.

badboy1997's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

STENDEC your rip looks great i'd love to see a DVD of that if you could

ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Just took one for the team - I bought one, so I'll let everybody know what quality it is and post some screenshots. :)

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RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

ww12345 said:

Just took one for the team - I bought one, so I'll let everybody know what quality it is and post some screenshots. :)

Great. Look forward to your observations.

ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

OK, the Bluray arrived in the mail a few days ago (kind of a long time for shipping, but that's beside the point). It came in a decent case, with some screenshots and such on the back cover.

Looking at the disc content itself, it is pretty good. It is a telecine of a print (done the wrong way - you can see the tell-tale pulses in the brighter spots throughout the film) but overall the picture quality is better than the VHS preservation by a mile.

Here are some captures:

Casino Royale Captures

Does anybody know what the copyright status of this is? I'd be happy to share it if it is in public domain.

Last edited on December 9, 2012 at 6:49 PM by ww12345
ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

I didn't check on the soundtrack. How would be a good way of testing that?

I saw the "bug" - could that be removed?

Also, I hadn't thought about the pulses being burned into the kinescope. It looked like projector flicker, but I suppose it could have been kine-flicker. :) 

ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

I'll check the audio codec later...

The copyright says 2012 Sky Chrome Media Inc. All Rights Reserved, but that means nothing. I could put that on copies of Harmy's DE, but that wouldn't give me copyright. What do you mean when you say it is hazy?

(sorry if that comes off snarky - it wasn't meant to be.) 

fuzzyfoot's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Does that Blu-ray have the complete ending?  To my knowledge the complete ending was extremely scratched up and it hasn't been seen on DVD or beyond.  If it does have the complete ending, I'd be interested in purchasing a copy.

I think you can find the full ending on youtube and see what I mean.

ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Yes, it has the full ending (to my knowledge.) The quality drops a bit, but not too much (as it is a kinoscope), so the quality is more or less consistent throughout.

What is the consensus on releasing this via tehparadox and the 'Spleen?

captainsolo's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Should work. The copyright status is unknown, as firstly it was thought lost until discovered in the 80's on the kinescope copy. The rights to CR were kicked around until they finally fell into Sony/Columbia's hands who stuck a deal with EON/MGM which gave them rights to the first novel for the first time. but that's all in regard to the novel and the '67 film.

The only official releases of the '54 version are the uncut Spyguise VHS, and the copy on the initial DVD release of the '67 film which does miss the ending bit. this is what I have and what I have seen save for watching the ending on youtube.

Those caps don't look too bad, how in the heck did they obtain a copy to scan in the first place?

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ww12345's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

All right, I'll rip it and try to get a copy up at the 'Spleen later...

Williarob's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Awesome!

jmm42991's avatar
RE: Bond | Casino Royale (1954) preservation

Is there an update on this? I recently discovered this and can't find a decent rip anywhere!

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