Warbler said:

Do not give me that crap... Japan wanted to surrender under a condition to keep the Emperor. You bombed their cities to test the effects of the bomb on real population and to show off in front of USSR. Then after you bombed them you let them keep the Emperor... So much about the "unacceptable" condition...

now THAT is bullshit.

Well, actually... Nah, let's not get into it...

You believe that to be the truth?  That Japan would have surrendered before the nukes were dropped if we had agreed that they would be allowed to keep the Emperor?  

I had always be under the impression that Japan very much had a culture of fighting to the last man.  And the fact they were going to fight to the last man is what would have made the mainland invasion so deadly.

imperialscum said:

darth_ender said:

Or do you consider multiple chemical attacks on his own Kurdish citizens to be the actions of a responsible leader?

Do you remember what was happening to Native Americans throughout your country's history? That makes Saddam look like a good boy.

And where exactly did those people who were killing the Native Americans come from, imperialscum? They were Europeans. Their offspring just carried on the trend. The British Empire has a rich history of being incredibly shitty at times, so lets ditch the historic high ground argument. It just makes you sound foolish.

We're all sons of bitches.

This divisiveness between us all in this thread is getting annoying. Being perhaps my favorite location on the planet, I tend to romanticize the U.K. quite a bit. I often condemn the US education system (which has become utter shit) and praise public education in other parts of the world, including that of England, as being far superior. You guys are making me look bad! Darth Ender and Bingo are about the only two in here showing much sign of brain activity in their posts. The absolute worst traits I loath of my fellow Americans, have been shining dazzlingly from Hey and imperialscum; while guys like Fink and TheBoost have been displaying the very traits and attitudes that have made me come to accept and love my home country.

I think Hey is from the UK.

Yes he is. That is what I mean, the two English guys continually make themselves sound like racist hillbillies from the sticks.

*sigh*  I do let myself get so pissed? and go off the deep end?   *sigh*

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when he says racist hillbillies from the sticks, he is talking about part of America.     And neither of the two English guys he was talking about was you. 

adywan said:

CP3S said:

Yes he is. That is what I mean, the two English guys continually make themselves sound like racist hillbillies from the sticks.

Hey, i'm English. i hope you're not lumping me in with that analogy. ;)

No sir, your posts have always been presented with sophistication and intelligence.

 

Bingowings said:

Lots of planets have sticks.

You should dump your dude and marry me so I can move to Scotland.

Harumph! Hey look just because I'm not entirely pro immigration and aren't exactly enamoured with the extreme side of Muslim society here in London, doesn't make me akin to some dungaree wearing, inbred, dumb hillbilly from the southern backwoods of America. Don't label me in that way. 

*gets of soapbox* (nod to warbler) :)

imperialscum said: darth_ender said: And our efforts in actuality have saved disproportionately far more lives.  Do you think the UK could have survived WWII without assistance? The most lives would be saved if you let them surrender... darth_ender said: Or do you consider multiple chemical attacks on his own Kurdish citizens to be the actions of a responsible leader? Do you remember what was happening to Native Americans throughout your country's history? That makes Saddam look like a good boy. 

Hey, it's me. said:

Harumph! Hey look just because I'm not entirely pro immigration and aren't exactly enamoured with the extreme side of Muslim society here in London, doesn't make me akin to some dungaree wearing, inbred, dumb hillbilly from the southern backwoods of America. Don't label me in that way. 

*gets of soapbox* (nod to warbler) :)

 

Backwood hillbilly said:

Harumph! Hey look just because I'm not entirely pro immigration and aren't exactly enamored with the extreme side of Hispanic society here in Texas, doesn't make me akin to some raincoat wearing, pompous, ignorant Londoner from Southwark. Don't label me in that way.

*picks up soup box to take home and stash in his backyard*

 

Fair enough. But if you would both be so kind as to keep the quacking to a minimum... ;)

CP3S said:

Harumph! Hey look just because I'm not entirely pro immigration and aren't exactly enamored with the extreme side of Hispanic society here in Texas, doesn't make me akin to some raincoat wearing, pompous, ignorant Londoner from Southwark. Don't label me in that way.

 

Fair enough. But if you would both be so kind as to keep the quaking to a minimum... ;)

My post wasn't a pop at American stereotypes C3PS. You did say I sound like some racist hillbilly. Why the sudden hostility? I'm not racist, I'm not homophobic. This is I have quite clearly stated. Why the sudden hostility from you?

Ah! You caught my last post before I fixed my typo. I do know how to spell quack, I swear.

I'm not being hostile. That last post was mostly in jest. It is hard not to drawn a comparison between you and some southerners, most of your complaints about Muslim immigrants have been the exact same thing they say about Mexicans. Literally, the exact same things.

And my previous post was a response to both you and imperialscum and some of the generalizing and trash talking you guys are doing. You guys have demonstrated knowing and understanding very little about our country and our culture, yet you guys act like you know us better than we do. It is making you guys come off as extremely ignorant.

You misunderstand. My beef is not about race. Here is a little taste of what's going on in London at the moment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html

Religion is not racial. So texans disliking Mexicans is ignorant because the last I looked, Mexicans pray to Jesus. 

Who's being silly? Me?