DuracellEnergizer said:

Until recently I thought Who Watches the Watchers? was the worst TNG episode ever made. When I watched The Chase today, however, I realized that wasn't so.

I don't see what's wrong with either of them.

In fact, I can't think of a single bad TNG episode...

I guess I'm just not critical enough. I watch TV shows for the characters and the relationships between them. The rest, to me, is just "necessary" to provide context and drama; to move things along.

I consider an episode "bad" if it makes me want to turn off the television and do something else. I rarely experience that with TV shows I enjoy and never once experienced it with TNG.

I keep coming back to Burn Notice because I like Michael, Sam, and Fiona. I'm much less interested in the spy shit.

So.... I've neglected this thread.... Sorry.

timdiggerm said:

twister111 said:

Tobar said:

twister111 said:

Interestingly enough I've seen all of Voyager, Deep Space Nine, and The Next Generation. Yet TOS I've yet to complete watching. I guess I feel like once I've done that. That's it. No more Star Trek series for me to watch with completely fresh eyes sort of speak.

What about Enterprise?

I simply don't like Enterprise enough to want to watch the entire thing. I'm pretty confident that I've likely seen the best of Enterprise already anyway.

What have you seen?

SilverWook said:

You have to at least check out the Andorian episodes. Jeffrey Combs as Shran was as memorable as his DS9 character.

The Mirror Universe two parter is also a must see.

I've seen the majority of Enterprise actually including the Mirror Universe episodes. Now that you mention it I may go through a list on memory alpha for the Jeffrey Combs episodes to make sure I've seen all of those but other then that I don't feel a strong desire to see all of Enterprise. I mainly gave a lot of Enterprise a shot because it was new Star Trek and Scott Bakula. It's no longer new Star Trek and Scott Bakula was in Chuck. So if I need a non-Quantum Leap Scott Bakula fix I can watch Chuck. ... (Must resist urge to turn this thread into another Chuck thread....)

Anyway currently going through DS9 again 'cause DS9. It's just an episode here and there since I got other shows I want to watch right now too.

AntcuFaalb said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Until recently I thought Who Watches the Watchers? was the worst TNG episode ever made. When I watched The Chase today, however, I realized that wasn't so.

I don't see what's wrong with either of them.

In regards to Who Watches the Watchers?, as someone who considers himself a protheistic agnostic, I have no love for the preachy, one-dimensional, one-sided, self-righteous way theism and theistic belief is treated in this episode. And anyway - metaphysics aside - I don't like it when writers twist characters to serve as mouthpieces for their own personal ideologies, characterization be damned.

As for The Chase ... to make a long story short, the pseudoscience just kills it for me. I could have used the real-world mechanism of convergent evolution as a ham-fisted explanation for why so many aliens in the ST Universe are basically humans with rubber foreheads; there was no need to throw some bullshit elder race/directed panspermia/pre-programmed evolution crap into the equation.

In fact, I can't think of a single bad TNG episode...

So that's means you're the first person in the world to think Shades of Gray was a decent episode?

twister111 said:

I may go through a list on memory alpha for the Jeffrey Combs episodes to make sure I've seen all of those but other then that I don't feel a strong desire to see all of Enterprise.

 

Spoiler alert - He's in the finale.

Johnny Ringo said:

twister111 said:

I may go through a list on memory alpha for the Jeffrey Combs episodes to make sure I've seen all of those but other then that I don't feel a strong desire to see all of Enterprise.

Spoiler alert - He's in the finale.

Seen the finale already so no worries.
Okay this'll be simpler I'll just create a rough list of episodes I can't recall having seen. Going mainly off episode title so I may have actually seen that episode but not remembered the title to go along with it. Still this will be short.

Season 1
Desert Crossing
Two Days Two Nights
Shockwave

Season 2
Shockwave II
The Seventh
The Communicator
The Crossing
Judgment

Season 3
I think I watched all of this. Might be wrong but nothing sticks out as definitely not seen.

Season 4
You know what looking at the list for Season 4 I think I've not seen the majority of it. Maybe I have and just not bothered to remember which Episode title correlates with each episode. Aside from Observer Effect, the Mirror Universe episodes, Terra Prime and the finale I don't think I've seen most of this season. I'm almost certain I've watched more of it but just haven't remembered the episode title for it.

So yeah there's my list.

DuracellEnergizer said:

So that's means you're the first person in the world to think Shades of Gray was a decent episode?

 

I really enjoyed Shades of Gray.

I usually like those "looking back" filler-episodes.

AntcuFaalb said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

So that's means you're the first person in the world to think Shades of Gray was a decent episode?

 

I really enjoyed Shades of Gray.

I usually like those "looking back" filler-episodes.

I wonder what some women think, what this episode is about...

AntcuFaalb said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

So that's means you're the first person in the world to think Shades of Gray was a decent episode?

 

I really enjoyed Shades of Gray.

I usually like those "looking back" filler-episodes.

I'm not a person that has any particular dislike of clipshows in general, but this episode was just lazy; leaving aside the fact that nothing from seasons 1 & 2 were all that worthy of reminiscence, the framing story was just weak.

NeverarGreat said:

I've never seen The Chase, but in the original series episode The Paradise Syndrome, a race of "Preservers" are theorized as having seeded the galaxy with humanoids. So this episode may have been referring to the original series.

I admit I never quite saw this episode - I didn't find the plot that interesting, so I kept nodding off - but I got the impression that the "Indian aliens" were supposed to humans transplanted from Earth.

TV's Frink said:

twister111 said:

So.... I've neglected this thread.... Sorry.

You're back bitches?  I don't even know what those are.

I, just, needed, a, random, gif, and I didn't want to go with the various Terminator "I'm back" pics!!!!


Yes I overused the comma.

I find it sad that there were more alien aliens in the twelve episodes I saw of the Filmation cartoon series then there were in the entire run of TNG.

Species 8472 was just another B5 rip-off this time the Thirdspace aliens.

*A wild Horta appears!*

"No Forget I!", it melts into a nearby stone

doubleofive said:

*A wild Horta appears!*

"No Forget I!", it melts into a nearby stone

Haha, that's awesome.

Watching pilot of Enterprise (have seen a couple of random episodes of the series previously). It's so bad. Not unwatchably bad...but it's pretty dull due to the deliberate pace, weak dialogue, bland camera work, poor digital effects...it's too obvious in everything it does. Now I'm going to go finish watching it...

Thirdspace was made in 1997 but held over for broadcast until 1998 so that it could sell straight to video. This is made uncomfortably obvious to Claudia Christian fans as she is in it even though she had made a rather messy departure from the show by 1998.

The Star Trek production team were infamous for poaching ideas, character names and technical staff from the B5 team.

DS9 does suspiciously resemble the original pitch for B5 which JMS delivered to Paramount first they turned him down because they weren't interested in doing a science fiction show set on a space station.