aalenfae said:

I downloaded the model from Scifi3d.com, rendered and animated it in Anim8or (wimpy 3D program), and composited the shot in After Effects. 

Looks pretty good. Needs to be a tad sharper though. Is that program simple to use? For a 3d animation newbie?

Yeah, the problem was I'm using the video from the blu-ray, and I rendered the helmet too small, so I had to upscale it. 

Anim8or is like the Microsoft Paint of 3D animation, haha 

haha. I see. I would love for someone to come out with a simple yet powerful 3D animator.

Yeah, all the powerful programs have super-difficult interfaces that I simply can't grasp. 

I'm finally back from a week-long trip, during which I didn't have my editing gear. 
I will now be returning in full-swing to my edit, and hopefully uploading some new videos and comparisons. 

Is there any scene that you all are curious to see?



In the meantime, here's an update on my edit of Anakin vs. Obi-Wan:

http://vimeo.com/32765762

 

And a new comparison shot!
 

aalenfae said:

And a new comparison shot!

 

Reminds me something l did before :)

Its curious why a hangar of a battle ship has to many round corners and round motives in the ground. Not to mention the polished reflective surfaces.

I liked the "selective lighted" troopers(in the corner), but i think that was the thing that ILM did in the first place to tone up obiwan and the others. Focusing on both points might be risky.

-Angel

 

I was inspired by your work, Angel! 

But I don't mind the reflective floors, as we actually see that in the OT. The problem is the blues, reds, and fancy floor designs.
What happened to the beautiful simplicity of classic hangar bays?

I think I will be keeping these shots in my edit. In light of your other suggestions about Cody, I wanted the audience to see him in person talking with Obi-Wan before the battle, rather than over the radio. 

Yeah, I'll need to break it up somehow, but it's hard because the scene that normally breaks up the action is moved to a different part of the movie in my edit. 

Too many edits I've seen don't give enough time for hyperspace, so I'll do my best to work around it.  

I'm not nearly the visual guru that Angel is, but personally I like the shot as is.  Sometimes it's nice to have a shot that leaves the eyes wondering where the focus will be, then zooming in or cutting to the right folks.  It reminds me of ROTJ when we are in the Mon Cal hangar just before Lando is made custodian of the Falcon and Han and co. get on the shuttle.  It's just a wide shot that draws your attention to various places.  In motion, I'm sure I'd have a better opinion to provide.

I definitely like darker, as it is more reminiscent of OT, and doesn't show off the plastic-y nature of the PT as much.

Yeah, I always likened this shot to the hangar shot from RotJ, where there's lots to look at - little details and people walking around. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that there's not a particular focus to the shot, but I definitely see where Angel is coming from. 

In the end, I took out the lighting on the V-Wing in the corner. Because it's dark in the original, and it looks really grainy when I light it up.  

aalenfae said:

Yeah, I always likened this shot to the hangar shot from RotJ, where there's lots to look at - little details and people walking around. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that there's not a particular focus to the shot, but I definitely see where Angel is coming from. 

In the end, I took out the lighting on the V-Wing in the corner. Because it's dark in the original, and it looks really grainy when I light it up.  

On the other hand a nice big star destroyer hangar as establishing shot wouldnt be a bad idea.

Clone wars and various sources can give us a hint of how this hangar looks.

Maybe a wide to close shot will help the OT feel.

That would require massive ammounts of work tho.(i can think a few solutions)

-Angel

Ah, a very nice idea!
What are your solutions?  

I already gave a shot at making a 3D hangar, but I painfully realized just how bad I am at making anything look good in 3D. 

When Anakin and Dooku first clash their sabers there is originaly a camera shake for no reason. With your concept now makes more sense, if you add explosions or boom sounds.

I liked the Green lasers(finaly)!

Never thought that the Red lights will look better as blue. Count that as +

I Like the concept of dooku throwing ben away but it gets confusing from what angle he sends him. I think flipping the first shot so Dooku throws him with a better subconscious way

Since i like the only Glows as explosions ROTS has been established a more detailed concept of explosion sprites. Maybe you want to take a look of that.

Good work commander!

-Angel

ahhh, well good! i like the colour changes you've made, chiefly being the change in contrast and the cyan sabres. the music is a really good choice too, although coincidentally i have been experimenting with that piece put to the duel at the end of the film as an OT substitute to battle of the heroes. didnt trooperman do a similar thing in SOTDS? it is a good idea i think to mix these things.

Angel said:

When Anakin and Dooku first clash their sabers there is originaly a camera shake for no reason. With your concept now makes more sense, if you add explosions or boom sounds.

I liked the Green lasers(finaly)!

Never thought that the Red lights will look better as blue. Count that as +

I Like the concept of dooku throwing ben away but it gets confusing from what angle he sends him. I think flipping the first shot so Dooku throws him with a better subconscious way

Since i like the only Glows as explosions ROTS has been established a more detailed concept of explosion sprites. Maybe you want to take a look of that.

Good work commander!

-Angel

Considering the random camera shake, it almost seems like they intended the ship to be under fire during the fight. This also explains why Palpatine can justify "Leave him or we'll never make it!"

I don't really understand what you mean by the explosion glows, though. 

 

 

And I'm glad you like the music, ben!
Funny how we were both looking at the same piece for different purposes. I was pleased just how well it worked in this scene.

The explosions in OT especially in ANH are just glows.

The explosions in PT and later OT films are more detailed sprites(images that always look at the camera)

Have only glows in ROTS look efficient from one hand but it needs some more detail from the other

-Angel

I really like what you've done with the last 2 clips. The final duel is very streamlined, with all the silly fighting and dialog removed. How will you handle Anakin's defeat?

The Dooku duel is very nice too. The explosions and attack give a nice explanation as to why the walkway falls on Obi-Wan.

I'm a bit late... but wow, what a difference... By streamlining the lightsaber fight with the fact that the ship is getting blown away gives the scene some tension and sense of urgency. Very well done. However, my only real change would be to cut Palpatine's "Good, Anakin!" and just have him simply cut his head off. Not make it obvious that Palpy is pulling the strings. I actually think all reference to Palpatine being evil should be removed, so that when he reveals his evil side it's abrupt.. if that's even possible. Otherwise, wow!