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Baronlando's avatar
RE: A New direction for Lucasfilm Animation

Here's a dumb question, is Star Wars making enough money? The movies will be huge naturally, but is the ancillary stuff in trouble? I recently heard that the merchandising from Episode I 3D last year was the biggest retail disaster in the history of star wars merchandise (and the clone wars toys and ratings took a major hit even before that). Maybe disney is just taking a hard look at the numbers of everything that isn't a movie.

Jaitea's avatar
RE: A New direction for Lucasfilm Animation

Baronlando said:

Here's a dumb question, is Star Wars making enough money? The movies will be huge naturally, but is the ancillary stuff in trouble? I recently heard that the merchandising from Episode I 3D last year was the biggest retail disaster in the history of star wars merchandise (and the clone wars toys and ratings took a major hit even before that). Maybe disney is just taking a hard look at the numbers of everything that isn't a movie.

I really hope that Disney is taking a fresh look at what the general public think of what is Star Wars,....it's not the Clone Wars or Jedi & Sith....what everyone knows as Star Wars is the OT.

Focus on that....Rebels, Scoundrels, Empire & Bounty hunters=$ & £

Lucas has been sanctioning the prequel era stuff, I think Disney realises theres bigger money to be made elsewhere

Tobar's avatar
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darth_ender said:

I know it will take place at some untouched timeframe, but what does that mean?  The only virgin Star Wars times are what, at least 150 years post ROTJ?

They said in a time not yet covered by film or television. Which is why I think it'll be a tie-in series to the new trilogy.

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Jaitea said:

I really hope that Disney is taking a fresh look at what the general public think of what is Star Wars,....it's not the Clone Wars or Jedi & Sith....what everyone knows as Star Wars is the OT.

Focus on that....Rebels, Scoundrels, Empire & Bounty hunters=$ & £

Lucas has been sanctioning the prequel era stuff, I think Disney realises theres bigger money to be made elsewhere

Let's be honest, the prequels were bad (from our perspective) but they still made astronomical amount of money. It is quite naive to assume that today's general public and kids are after qualities of OT. Disney sure isn't after satisfying a few of us "old timers" with good taste in films. They are after money and they will make the films in a way to follow the today's trends and to appeal for the wider audience.

Last edited on April 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM by imperialscum

Prequel Trilogy was supposed to be a story about a good man turning bad. In reality, it is a story about how a complete jerk (PT Anakin) turned into one of the best characters in film history (OT Vader)

Jaitea's avatar
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imperialscum said:

Let's be honest, the prequels were bad (from our perspective) but they still made astronomical amount of money. It is quite naive to assume that today's general public and kids are after qualities of OT. Disney sure isn't after satisfying a few of us "old timers" with good taste in films. They are after money and they will make the films in a way to follow the today's trends and to appeal for the wider audience.

Yep, I agree, they made a lot of money, but Star Wars has got itself into a niche market, it's not mainstream anymore, I've got 2 kids one 13 and one 6, the 13year old had a lot of the figures & ships at the time, but they're in the attic....the 6year old is into Pixar Cars, Toy Story...all the current stuff....Star Wars doesn't come into it, I've tried the Clone Wars cartoon, but that doesn't hold his attention....it's too boring & nerdy.....his words

Disney wants the gold

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Jaitea said:

imperialscum said:

Let's be honest, the prequels were bad (from our perspective) but they still made astronomical amount of money. It is quite naive to assume that today's general public and kids are after qualities of OT. Disney sure isn't after satisfying a few of us "old timers" with good taste in films. They are after money and they will make the films in a way to follow the today's trends and to appeal for the wider audience.

Yep, I agree, they made a lot of money, but Star Wars has got itself into a niche market, it's not mainstream anymore, I've got 2 kids one 13 and one 6, the 13year old had a lot of the figures & ships at the time, but they're in the attic....the 6year old is into Pixar Cars, Toy Story...all the current stuff....Star Wars doesn't come into it, I've tried the Clone Wars cartoon, but that doesn't hold his attention....it's too boring & nerdy.....his words

Disney wants the gold

Exactly. Now if the kids find even the prequels and CW cartoons boring then OT would be like taking them to the theatre to watch Shakespeare's play.

Prequel Trilogy was supposed to be a story about a good man turning bad. In reality, it is a story about how a complete jerk (PT Anakin) turned into one of the best characters in film history (OT Vader)

Jaitea's avatar
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Fortunately the OT has a story & characters that Disney wants to expand on.

They've realised that the Prequel & Clone Wars era stuff is a dead end

J

Jaitea's avatar
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That's why I'm saying that I think Disney wants to put the Star Wars Franchise back in the mainstream arena, not just for kids...or diehard fans...think of the Marvel Films & the success of those movies.

At the minute the only Star Wars productions are being made for a specific audience, it is unfortunate and wrong to abruptly end the series, but I think Disney feels that it could spend its money on something that would attract a bigger audience

J

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SilverWook said:


Ending the show before it's scripted conclusion, with a vague promise of some "bonus" stuff down the line, is not the best way to build goodwill with nervous fans. Believe it or not, Disney isn't always universally beloved as a company.

And if they're only after the kids, they've blown four billion bucks for nothing.

This is one of those odd times where I'm going to put my trust in good ole' GL. While the prequels were much more action-oriented than the OT, other than TPM I certainly wouldn't call them kids-only entertainment. Hell, ROTS is PG13 (it really shouldn't be, but that's beside the case.) Since he did the treatment for the sequel trilogy I expect an all-ages demographic. Can't speak for merchandizing or side projects though.

imperialscum's avatar
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Jaitea said:

That's why I'm saying that I think Disney wants to put the Star Wars Franchise back in the mainstream arena, not just for kids...or diehard fans...think of the Marvel Films & the success of those movies.

At the minute the only Star Wars productions are being made for a specific audience, it is unfortunate and wrong to abruptly end the series, but I think Disney feels that it could spend its money on something that would attract a bigger audience

J

I have to disagree with that. The prequels were in the current mainstream and that is why they were so successful. They were made to appeal for as wide audience as possible. It is the OT that does not fit in today's mainstream.

Prequel Trilogy was supposed to be a story about a good man turning bad. In reality, it is a story about how a complete jerk (PT Anakin) turned into one of the best characters in film history (OT Vader)

Jaitea's avatar
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imperialscum said:

I have to disagree with that. The prequels were in the current mainstream and that is why they were so successful. They were made to appeal for as wide audience as possible. It is the OT that does not fit in today's mainstream.

This is a wind up.....you got me for a minute there

J

darth_ender's avatar
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Tobar said:

darth_ender said:

I know it will take place at some untouched timeframe, but what does that mean?  The only virgin Star Wars times are what, at least 150 years post ROTJ?

They said in a time not yet covered by film or television. Which is why I think it'll be a tie-in series to the new trilogy.

Good point.  You're probably right.  Gosh, it frustrates me to no end that they wouldn't do something to tie up that series in a nice package.  To me it's the best product from the prequel era...everything they could have been.  I hate that they "solved" the Sifo-Dyas plot hole with a comic, and I'd hate for them to do the same sort of thing with The Clone Wars. :(

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.

 

Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ

A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end

Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:

Part 1  Part 2  Part 3  Part 4

Bester's avatar
RE: A New direction for Lucasfilm Animation

The latest episode of the Rebel Force Radio podcast has an interesting interview with Dave Filoni, in which he says he is currently working on the preliminary stages of a new SW animated show.  Check it out.

 

In Abrams I Trust

darth_ender's avatar
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Finally some news on TCW!  And I read that more news is forthcoming on the semi-official Star Wars holiday, May the Fourth.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2013/04/30/star-wars-the-clone-wars-animation/2122763/

At least things are not quite as depressing as they were before.

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.

 

Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ

A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end

Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:

Part 1  Part 2  Part 3  Part 4

darth_ender's avatar
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Some information on the cancelled 6th season.  Seems legitimate to me.

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2013/06/clone-wars-writer-gives-details-about.html

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.

 

Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ

A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end

Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:

Part 1  Part 2  Part 3  Part 4

darth_ender's avatar
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Rumor is that they are now working on around 10 episodes, which could possibly, though not necessarily, mean that other episodes are already complete.  But the fact that we'll get at least 10 is somewhat encouraging.

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2013/06/rumor-ten-episodes-soundtrack-coming.html

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.

 

Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ

A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end

Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:

Part 1  Part 2  Part 3  Part 4

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