4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 66

Harmy, we might respect your opinion more if you knew anything about 4k.

I think the '97 version has a better chance of being included than the '04 version (or the '11 version for that matter).

We don't know the details on this 4k transfer, but the evidence points to it being the SE. Presumably, it's the "final" SE and maybe also the basis for the 3D conversions if they are in fact in the works.

If that's the case, then the earlier '11 and '04 versions would be rendered kind of redundant. The 2015 version will probably just redo most of those changes and might even add a few more crazy changes on top of that. Some of the '04/'11 changes could even be reversed. Lets not forget that one shot of the truck going over the cliff in Raiders that was redone digitally for a tv broadcast only to go back to the way it was for the blu-ray.

There's been a lot of discussion here about how "Disney isn't beholden to George's wishes, they bought his company for $4 billion, etc," but I don't think we're going to see a restored OOT release that doesn't also include the "final" version in just as nicely a restored condition, at least not while George is alive and his friend Kathleen Kennedy is in charge.

Also, we can't discount the number of SE fans out there. Y'know, the tfners foaming at the mouth for even more changes with each new release.

The most likely scenario, if we do in fact get the OOT on blu-ray this year, is a two-disc set for each movie with the 2015 version on the first disc and the unaltered on the second.

A more-than-reasonable idea for a "collector's set" would go like this:

Disc 1: The Final Cut

Disc 2: The Special Edition

Disc 3: The Original Version

Danfun128 said:

Heres to hoping for a semi specialized release with updated cgi...

Not that it makes any difference to me (it's the SE), but it would be nice if they finally got cg Jabba looking right. I actually like the way he looks in the '97 version. Their attempt to redo him to fit with the TPM model only made it look worse.

There are also some pretty huge vfx mistakes still visible in the '04 version, changes I'm assuming weren't fixed for the blu-ray. The big one I'm thinking of is the fleet of ships in the background rolling with the camera during the Endor space battle. They were able to fix mistakes like tie fighters and cloud cars appearing in front of the Falcon instead of behind it. Maybe they couldn't fix the fleet shot because it involved rotating an otherwise static element?

In regards to a comprehensive set, I doubt it would ever contain the '04 SE. But a branch of the 97/11 would be the most likely solution (if the 97 were to be included at all, which it probably won't be). Since the o-neg exists as the 97, it would be easy to preserve that and simultaneously restore it and reassemble the 11 from the new scan. I don't think we'll see a new cut, either. The most we're likely to get is a reconstructed 11 on one set of discs and a restored OOT on another.

moviefreakedmind said:

Fang Zei said:

I think the '97 version has a better chance of being included than the '04 version (or the '11 version for that matter).

We don't know the details on this 4k transfer, but the evidence points to it being the SE. Presumably, it's the "final" SE and maybe also the basis for the 3D conversions if they are in fact in the works.

If that's the case, then the earlier '11 and '04 versions would be rendered kind of redundant. The 2015 version will probably just redo most of those changes and might even add a few more crazy changes on top of that. Some of the '04/'11 changes could even be reversed. Lets not forget that one shot of the truck going over the cliff in Raiders that was redone digitally for a tv broadcast only to go back to the way it was for the blu-ray.

There's been a lot of discussion here about how "Disney isn't beholden to George's wishes, they bought his company for $4 billion, etc," but I don't think we're going to see a restored OOT release that doesn't also include the "final" version in just as nicely a restored condition, at least not while George is alive and his friend Kathleen Kennedy is in charge.

Also, we can't discount the number of SE fans out there. Y'know, the tfners foaming at the mouth for even more changes with each new release.

The most likely scenario, if we do in fact get the OOT on blu-ray this year, is a two-disc set for each movie with the 2015 version on the first disc and the unaltered on the second.

A more-than-reasonable idea for a "collector's set" would go like this:

Disc 1: The Final Cut

Disc 2: The Special Edition

Disc 3: The Original Version

 I agree that the 97's have more chances of seeing the light than the 04 versions, but I still would be shocked to the point of having a heart attack if they ever actually released anything but the originals and the recent version. I also would bet money that they'll never make any new changes ever again either, unless it's just recompositing or something along those lines because any more changes would piss off the entire fan base because it "disrespects" Lucas' "vision" and it's changing the movies more which pisses off everyone else. 

Something I forgot to make clear in my post:

The "2015" version, presumably from RMW's 4k restoration, would also presumably be finalized with GL's approval.

anyone can up scale a 1080p source to 4k.

I can't.

That's not really the point of 4k, though.

Upscaling a 1080p signal to 4k won't substantially improve how it looks, just as upscaling a dvd to 1080p won't magically make it look like a blu-ray.

TV's Frink said:

I can't.

Eat your Wheaties in the morning and say your prayers at night and maybe, just maybe, you'll be able to do so one day. 

- "Dark Horse will never loose the license."

- "The EU will never be decanonized."

- "Episode numbers will never be excluded from marketing."

I kept hearing all those claims, and look where we are now.

Dear Thread,

Sincerely,
TV's Frink

^Herbert West gave it an inoculation.

Every forum needs its own Ric Olie.

4K is chump change compared to the 6K that House of Cards' third season was finished in.

http://nofilmschool.com/2015/03/netflix-house-cards-shot-post-6k-red-epic-dragon

Just 15 to 18 days until the official announcement that the OOT will be released.