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Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns (Han Solo VS Indiana Jones, October 31, 2005 at 3:00 AM)
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns (Han Solo VS Indiana Jones, October 31, 2005 at 3:00 AM)
JediSage Jedi Knight
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 1, 2005 at 8:58 PM — Post 26 of 38
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
The generation (dare I call us the Star Wars generation) that spent the most disposable income on movies a few years ago is getting older and having kids.
With surging ticket & concession prices, it's becoming less economically feasible to hire a sitter and go to the movies. Especially when the time away from home is being unnecessarily extended by 20 minutes of commercials (!!!) and previews before the movie begins. For those with kids old enough to go to the movies, the ticket & concession prices alone make it a bad deal economically when you can wait four months for the DVD.
Then we have to deal with the idiots in the row behind who are dragging kids too young to a movie (my greatest horror story was sitting next to the couple who brought a toddler to see Jackie Brown) or chatting on their cell phones, disrupting the film for everybody around.
DVD sales are going gangbusters because it lets the entire family watch repeatedly in the comfort of their own home, on their own schedule, in theater-quality sound without those annoying "other people" ruining the experience.
If the theaters wish to get serious about courting people, it all boils down to sacrificing the profit margin in favor of increasing the bottom line. The following suggestions will improve profits if theater owners would have the brains and balls to implement them:
1) Cut matinee prices in half and expect greater than a 100% increase in ticket buyers.
2) Enforce age minimums for non-children's films.
3) Kick out families with disruptive children and kick out anybody who takes a phone call during the film.
4) Make 2-for-1 "Date Deals" for non-peak evenings like Monday and Tuesday.
5) Offer free tickets for parents who bring 1 or more children to a children's movie.
6) Cut the price of concessions. $6.75 for a regular hot dog and a soda is ridiculous. $4.50 for popcorn is insane. Offer a better selection at a reasonable price.
If theater owners did this, would you be more likely to attend? Feel free to copy these suggestions verbatim and send them to your local theater. I'm gonna do that myself.
The generation (dare I call us the Star Wars generation) that spent the most disposable income on movies a few years ago is getting older and having kids.
With surging ticket & concession prices, it's becoming less economically feasible to hire a sitter and go to the movies. Especially when the time away from home is being unnecessarily extended by 20 minutes of commercials (!!!) and previews before the movie begins. For those with kids old enough to go to the movies, the ticket & concession prices alone make it a bad deal economically when you can wait four months for the DVD.
Then we have to deal with the idiots in the row behind who are dragging kids too young to a movie (my greatest horror story was sitting next to the couple who brought a toddler to see Jackie Brown) or chatting on their cell phones, disrupting the film for everybody around.
DVD sales are going gangbusters because it lets the entire family watch repeatedly in the comfort of their own home, on their own schedule, in theater-quality sound without those annoying "other people" ruining the experience.
If the theaters wish to get serious about courting people, it all boils down to sacrificing the profit margin in favor of increasing the bottom line. The following suggestions will improve profits if theater owners would have the brains and balls to implement them:
1) Cut matinee prices in half and expect greater than a 100% increase in ticket buyers.
2) Enforce age minimums for non-children's films.
3) Kick out families with disruptive children and kick out anybody who takes a phone call during the film.
4) Make 2-for-1 "Date Deals" for non-peak evenings like Monday and Tuesday.
5) Offer free tickets for parents who bring 1 or more children to a children's movie.
6) Cut the price of concessions. $6.75 for a regular hot dog and a soda is ridiculous. $4.50 for popcorn is insane. Offer a better selection at a reasonable price.
If theater owners did this, would you be more likely to attend? Feel free to copy these suggestions verbatim and send them to your local theater. I'm gonna do that myself.
Dude, you could copy this and send it to every major studio/distribution head. EXACTLY what needs to happen.
Number20 Jedi Knight
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 1, 2005 at 9:53 PM — Post 27 of 38
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
If the theaters wish to get serious about courting people, it all boils down to sacrificing the profit margin in favor of increasing the bottom line. The following suggestions will improve profits if theater owners would have the brains and balls to implement them:
1) Cut matinee prices in half and expect greater than a 100% increase in ticket buyers.
2) Enforce age minimums for non-children's films.
3) Kick out families with disruptive children and kick out anybody who takes a phone call during the film.
4) Make 2-for-1 "Date Deals" for non-peak evenings like Monday and Tuesday.
5) Offer free tickets for parents who bring 1 or more children to a children's movie.
6) Cut the price of concessions. $6.75 for a regular hot dog and a soda is ridiculous. $4.50 for popcorn is insane. Offer a better selection at a reasonable price.
If theater owners did this, would you be more likely to attend? Feel free to copy these suggestions verbatim and send them to your local theater. I'm gonna do that myself.
If the theaters wish to get serious about courting people, it all boils down to sacrificing the profit margin in favor of increasing the bottom line. The following suggestions will improve profits if theater owners would have the brains and balls to implement them:
1) Cut matinee prices in half and expect greater than a 100% increase in ticket buyers.
2) Enforce age minimums for non-children's films.
3) Kick out families with disruptive children and kick out anybody who takes a phone call during the film.
4) Make 2-for-1 "Date Deals" for non-peak evenings like Monday and Tuesday.
5) Offer free tickets for parents who bring 1 or more children to a children's movie.
6) Cut the price of concessions. $6.75 for a regular hot dog and a soda is ridiculous. $4.50 for popcorn is insane. Offer a better selection at a reasonable price.
If theater owners did this, would you be more likely to attend? Feel free to copy these suggestions verbatim and send them to your local theater. I'm gonna do that myself.
One to add: Get rid of the TV commercials before the movie starts. Having to sit through endless trailers was ok, because at least it was movie-related. But tacking on a bunch of commercials for Coca-Cola, cars, deodorant, etc, is too much. The movie doesn't actually start until 30-40 minutes after the listed start time.
Bossk Jedi Spirit
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 1, 2005 at 10:12 PM — Post 28 of 38
The problem is that the theaters that do employ techniques such as those listed here often go out of business far too quickly. People say they will attend, but they rarely do. To make some of these ideas a reality, sacrifices must be made. Usually this happens in sound or picture quality, comfort and cleanliness, or taste and selection in food and drinks. Then people just start going to the bigger theaters as a result. Even if the chains do charge outrageous amounts of cash, people still pay. It's sad, but true.
GundarkHunter All Things Film Junkie
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 1, 2005 at 10:27 PM — Post 29 of 38
As someone who worked for one of the big chains, I must sadly concur. My chain was one of the better ones, but they still played commercials before the trailers. If you want to blame anyone for commercials, blame the studios for their sheer greed. Sony took 90% of the box office grosses for the first 3 weeks Spider-Man 2 was in theatres. If the theatres don't have that operating income, guess what happens? Concession prices skyrocket, exhibitors look to commercials to supplement what they're not getting from the gate, and so forth. As to the problem with bringing toddlers to R-rated movies, as much as I am a defender of free speech and freedom of expression, this problem would be dealt with easily by a ratings system that restricted this sort of behaviour. Let's face facts: the MPAA is a joke in more ways than one.
The cell phone problem could be dealt with structurally: let's build movie theatres where cellphone coverage is poor to nonexistent. Problem solved.
This was indeed a sucky year for movies. I only went to 2 or 3 staff screenings this year, compared with 10 or more in 2004.
The cell phone problem could be dealt with structurally: let's build movie theatres where cellphone coverage is poor to nonexistent. Problem solved.
This was indeed a sucky year for movies. I only went to 2 or 3 staff screenings this year, compared with 10 or more in 2004.
JediSage Jedi Knight
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 2, 2005 at 12:20 AM — Post 30 of 38
Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
As to the problem with bringing toddlers to R-rated movies, as much as I am a defender of free speech and freedom of expression, this problem would be dealt with easily by a ratings system that restricted this sort of behaviour. Let's face facts: the MPAA is a joke in more ways than one.
As to the problem with bringing toddlers to R-rated movies, as much as I am a defender of free speech and freedom of expression, this problem would be dealt with easily by a ratings system that restricted this sort of behaviour. Let's face facts: the MPAA is a joke in more ways than one.
Well, I think any system they put in place will be useless without enforcement. I mean, it can't get much clearer than a single letter rating, followed by a brief description of the content (Drug use, sexual content, etc). It's incumbent on the theaters to ask for id, and prevent people who shouldn't be in there from getting in there.
Han Solo VS Indiana Jones Jedi Knight
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 2, 2005 at 12:28 AM — Post 31 of 38
As far as over pricing the tickets and food goes, it didn't use to be a problem for me - I worked in a movie theater, originally Hoyts Cinema which was later bought by Regal Cinema, for 2 and a half years, which is longer than anyone should work in a movie theater. I stuck around mostly because of this one golden perk: you could see free movies on your day(s) off. Plus, and this was more a liberty than a perk, you could sneak into movies and check out the previews so you would know in advance what to avoid witout relying on the Internet. I got in a lot of trouble for making fun of the Troy, Catwoman and King Arthur trailers, among others, and it was worth it .
Bossk Jedi Spirit
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 2, 2005 at 7:50 PM — Post 32 of 38
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I got in a lot of trouble for making fun of the Troy, Catwoman and King Arthur trailers, among others, and it was worth it .
I got in a lot of trouble for making fun of the Troy, Catwoman and King Arthur trailers, among others, and it was worth it .
Those deserved to be made fun of. If anything, you should receive some sort of humanitarian award for this.
GundarkHunter All Things Film Junkie
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 2, 2005 at 11:22 PM — Post 33 of 38
I remember getting into an interesting argument about Troy with one of my former co-workers. She said she was looking forward to seeing some good acting, to which my response was, "From Brian Cox, Brendan Gleeson and Peter O'Toole?"
Of course, she didn't know who I was talking about.
Of course, she didn't know who I was talking about.
Bossk Jedi Spirit
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 3, 2005 at 4:12 PM — Post 34 of 38
Yeah, it certainly wasn't coming from Orlando Bloom.
Han Solo VS Indiana Jones Jedi Knight
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 4, 2005 at 11:26 PM — Post 35 of 38
Originally posted by: Bossk
Those deserved to be made fun of. If anything, you should receive some sort of humanitarian award for this.
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I got in a lot of trouble for making fun of the Troy, Catwoman and King Arthur trailers, among others, and it was worth it .
I got in a lot of trouble for making fun of the Troy, Catwoman and King Arthur trailers, among others, and it was worth it .
Those deserved to be made fun of. If anything, you should receive some sort of humanitarian award for this.
Thank you Bossk.
Montcalm Also Known As MapleDog On The Net
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 5, 2005 at 2:05 AM — Post 36 of 38
Originally posted by: Number20
Don't forget one of Hollywood's favorite excuses for their bad sales: Internet Piracy.
Don't forget one of Hollywood's favorite excuses for their bad sales: Internet Piracy.
Which is funnier when THEY are the ones doing the piracy,right before the movie is released in theater SW Episode 3
GundarkHunter All Things Film Junkie
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 5, 2005 at 7:27 PM — Post 37 of 38
It's funny how this piracy prosecution is turning out.
Switch Radic I am ready for the trials!
Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns — November 6, 2005 at 8:11 PM — Post 38 of 38
the only reason their is a piracy issue is
1: the world is run by money.
2: because of 1, artists make works to make money.
3: people are just plain cheap and lazy
those aren't all the reasons, just the ones that spring to mind at the moment
blaming piracy for the lack of box office returns is just stupid in my opinion. It's stupid and it's a cop out of sorts. Make going to the movies something fun to look forward to if you want people to spend money at the theaters. I remember when I was a kid, going to the movies was something to look forward to. Also, I think the can think about having fewer screens than they have now. That might have something to do with it.
1: the world is run by money.
2: because of 1, artists make works to make money.
3: people are just plain cheap and lazy
those aren't all the reasons, just the ones that spring to mind at the moment
blaming piracy for the lack of box office returns is just stupid in my opinion. It's stupid and it's a cop out of sorts. Make going to the movies something fun to look forward to if you want people to spend money at the theaters. I remember when I was a kid, going to the movies was something to look forward to. Also, I think the can think about having fewer screens than they have now. That might have something to do with it.